Black Hole Sun 6b+

Franchard Hautes Plaines, Fontainebleau

Crimps Mantle Overhang SitStart

I'm not sure I did this right. I started in the little pit, as described on, then saw the video there that starts out left and traverses right to the pit. It's a short climb, and I thought it seemed a bit soft for the grade, so you might want to do the traverse to add a few moves.

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Helen Dudley, May 24, 2019

This is a nicely climbed block, but I'm not sure that it's Black Hole Sun that you've climbed. I think it starts a little further right and exits to the right of the prow. If you need a definitive decision perhaps you should ask, but this line looks fun - maybe you need to name and grade it and submit it as a first ascent.

Terri Lesher, May 26, 2019

I did the same line as shown in both videos posted on for Black Hole Sun, but they started further left and traversed right (two moves) to my start point. That version is probably better. I'd have done it that way if I saw the videos first. But I just had the description- "Sitstart in a little pit and exit directly"- which I interpreted as seen in my video. Maybe the videos on are actually a different problem. Either way, I can't claim a FA :) But we can take my video down to avoid confusion.

Caroline Coolen, June 18, 2019

Hello girls,
Helen is right, the original version of Black Hole Sun start before the start that you did but maybe you can send it as a first ascent like "Black Hole Sun (raccourci)". If you want to see the original version, I just upload a video :)

Terri Lesher, June 18, 2019

That’s the same as the videos on It is the description there that is confusing (“sitstart in the little pit”). Traversing in from the left is definitely better. But I can’t claim a FA for skipping a few moves 😉.

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